Archive for September, 2011

27 September, 2011

#OccupyWallStreet: a vegan perspective

To those who are fighting for justice, for anyone or any living being – I’ll stand with you.

And to those who think that I, have no right to comment on their fight and that vegans are irrelevant….

“Capitalism? Slavery? Genocide? Sitcoms? Guns? War? Pollution? Addiction? NAFTA? Thigh-Master? This is your fucking white-history, my “friend.”
So why don’t we start making a history worth being proud of and start fighting the real fucking enemy: the white male capitalist supremacist.”
–Propagandhi–

Once upon a time, in an anti-capitalist forum, far far away….
There was a recent discussion on an anti-capitalist forum, sparked by a digitally-altered picture of a burning Wall Street©$ office building with posters giving their opinions.

Some said burning the rich was the ultimate expression of anti-capitalism.

A couple of anti-capitalist vegans commented but these vegans were quickly, shunted off to one side, mocked as a niche issue, for the dilettantes and PeTA-wannabes and eating-disorder girls, meanwhile leave the heavy political issues to hard-core men-folk, Praise Marx and all that.

Capitalism:

“Advocates of capitalism are very apt to appeal to the sacred principles of liberty, which are embodied in one maxim:

The fortunate must not be restrained in the exercise of tyranny over the unfortunate.”
Bertrand Russell
(philosopher)

A lot of insults and name-calling ensued. Until…. gradually the vegans began making their opinions known on the subject.

The opinion of these vegans was this:

Not only is Veganism as expression of anti-capitalist ideas, it is perhaps the most effective of all anti-capitalist direct actions.

It is a complete rejection of the exploitation and ownership of all living beings, not just the human ones.
So, why hold Capitalism responsible?
The capitalist business ethic is based on one of exploitation – the earth, animals and humans. How much you can dig up, chop down, saturate with poison, slaughter – it’s all good, as long as you are making a profit.

How much pollution you create is irrelevant, fill those oceans and lakes with plastic, chemicals, oil, toxin – but make a profit.

Chop down all the trees and plow the fields – but make a profit.

Want to frack prime food-producing land and contaminate the drinking water of communities? sure go ahead – but make a profit.

Blow the tops of mountains, and dig huge strip mines? why not – but make a profit.

Want to build a private toll-road where a childrens playground / rainforest / Indigenous community is – sure, says governments – not only will we give you the land, but will you pay you taxpayers money if you don’t make enough profit!

Your life has NO VALUE other than that of a consumer – don’t believe me? Ask Ford

In 1977 the Ford car, the PINTO, had a design flaw which meant gas/petrol tanks were more likely to explode if hit in collisions. The cost of repairing this flaw was $11. Ford made the decision that it would be cheaper to let people die and fight off any lawsuits than correct the problem.

Capitalism does not care about feeding the starving, healing the sick, educating the children, providing care to the elderly, ensuring a safe working environment for the working classes, providing a safe, clean, non-deadly environment for communities – NO, the only goal of capitalism is to make money.

And if I was an owner, banker, investor, shareholder, I would be annoyed if the company did anything other make money, by any means necessary, regardless of social cost.

Capitalism has made all living things on the planet, and the planet itself fair game. Animals are property, the air is property, the water that falls from the sky is property (Bolivia has privatised the rain, the water that falls on your own property does not belong to you).

Monsanto is gaining an increasing share in the seed market. You don’t own the food you grow on your property. Want to save some seeds to plant future gardens? Nope, that is a crime.

Capitalism even own the genes in your body – Myriad Genetics owns your genes and mine.

(Who did they buy my genes from? How did anyone think they had the rights to sell your genes? What are they doing with the ownership of our genes?)

Think that is absurd, that a private company that you’ve probably never heard of owns your body parts?

Just ask a cow or a chicken.

Only after the last tree has been cut down, Only after the last river has been poisoned, Only after the last fish has been caught, Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten.

Ok, capitalism is evil, but that’s got nothing to do with VEGANS, has it?
Once you start talking about crashing the system, bringing down the banksters and gangsters of Wall Street, breaking the chains slave-wages or no wages while mega-corporations take their tax payer bail outs and take their factories offshore, the anti-capitalists are all for it.

They may even shout slogans like tax the rich, burn the rich or f-ck the system.

Yah, I’m down for that (say the VEGANS)
– how about we end the enslavement of 10s of millions of living beings who are sold like cattle, made to work non-stop producing more and more, without decent working conditions, for no pay, and when they are no longer useful, murdered.

Hell Yes! (say the rebels)

Then let’s all GO VEGAN!

. . .

Say what?

And, it is at this point that the Leninist-Trotsky-Marxists chime in – Now, you’re taking it too far, don’t you care about the exploitation of people? go hug a tree and weave some baskets in your hemp clothing, while us real anti-capitalists overthrow the system

Audi automobile with the license plate

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Then they consume animal products…… contributing $Money to the exact same system they claim to want to over throw.

The vegans get side-lined, their issues are deemed irrelevant, when really, vegans should be seen as an ally of those fighting for justice, fairness and equal rights.

As can often happen, when fighting to achieve social change, those who fight off the dominate group, then turn around and apply that dominance against others – feminists who ignored issues of race (see the writings of Audre Lorde or bell hooks – Feminist Class Struggle, or anti-war movements resulted in men doing the thinking and women making the coffee and cakes (see the writings of Robin Morgan), or marriage equality activists who are dreadful racists (a certain Australian celebrity supports gays marriage but also supports racism).

Examples of this can be seen among anti-capitalist, who themselves enslave animals or pay others do so on their behalf. Hopefully this attitude is dying out.

To me, begin vegan is about ending the commodification of animals. It is about the end of a process which has seen the reproductive systems of cows and chickens morphed into a factory farm, where the more cruel you are the higher your profits.  It is about ending the enslavement, ownership, and exploitation of those who are just a little bit different from us.

This extract from a Mother Jones article shows how the business model of factory farming impacts on more than just the lives and deaths of animals.

How the Meat Industry Turned Abuse into a Business Model

Abuse of animals is routine. Entire ecosystems get trashed, as is the case of the Chesapeake Bay—once one of the globe’s most productive fisheries, brought to near-ruin by runoff from a stunning concentration of factory chicken farms. Family farmers are literally turned into serfs as they scale up to meet the industry’s demands. And we all face the menace of the antibiotic-resistant pathogens now brewing up on animal factory farms, which now consume 80 percent of antibiotics used in the United States (both to make livestock grow faster and keep them alive in cramped, filthy conditions).

Meanwhile, the industry can be expected to vigorously fight any attempt to curtail its abusive practices. Market power extends to the political sphere—the meat lobby is one of those powerful D.C. players that—like oil and banking—has the cash to maintain friendships on both sides of the political aisle.

And to think, some people say vegans don’t care about people!

If you consume any animal products, you have in effect, paid someone to kill on your behalf.

An animal is not a thing to be owned, murdered, enslaved, and yet, every day, millions and millions of animals are murdered and enslaved….. also by those who claim to be anti-capitalist.

They want to tear down the corporations that enslave people, yet own other beings, and at no point see a disconnect between the two. In fact, when this disconnect is pointed out to them, they deny it even more emphatically.

Some people speak lovely, angry words of revolution, of overthrowing the system, ending capitalism, no more ownership, but shove animal products into that same mouth, without a pause to consider their inconsistency, between what they say and what they do.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. ~ Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

How non-conformists are these anti-globalism activists, as they blog using their Apple ipads™®©$, drinking Starbucks™®©$ Mocha Frappuccino™®©$, wearing their Nike™®©$ and Adidas™®©$, and eating their McDonalds BigMac™®©$

If you think that you’re an anti-capitalist rebel, but eat animal products, you are enslaving animals. Yeh, way to be a rebel.

You think you are rejecting over-consumption while you consume the carcasses of a once-living, breathing animal whose entire life has been abject slavery and misery.

To those occupying Wall Street, I support you.

The conspicuously wealthy turn up urging the character building values of the privation of the poor.
John Kenneth Galbraith 

So what does the Occupation of Wall Street hope to achieve

Although the website https://occupywallst.org has issued a list of demands – a constitution  if you will, many of these demands are state issues or federal issues that probably won’t be achieved by the occupation.

However, if it provides an outlet for the anger people are feeling about the inequities in a society where 1% of the population own more wealth than the other 99%. Then who does it hurt.

The fact that this occupation has received very little coverage from mainstream media, is an example of what these protesters are up against. The media themselves being a corporation who benefit from an apathetic population whose only function is consumption.

And who knows, this might be an outlet needed to avoid London style riots.

Or, it might just raise awareness that people are not alone, they do have the power, and it might be start of a larger movement.

If you have something you would like to add, or if you disagree, leave a comment or find me on twitter @redglitterx

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11 September, 2011

Vegans are immoral…. or perhaps amoral, or both, but definitely cause famines

Vegans put up with some illogical comments and questions from people who try to justify their meat-dairy-eggs-honey centred diets.

If the poster of this comment thinks vegans cause famine, then perhaps thinking is not their strong point.

Text version:

Veganism is cool and very healthy when approached properly, but this kind of anti-meat nonsense gets annoying. If you wanna talk ethics of killing animals to eat them, let’s talk about the ethics of destroying animal habitats to produce fruits and veg at a level that is unnatural and damaging to the environment on many many levels.

As long as we’re producing enough to feed 7 billion people (not even that many, when you consider famines all over the world), humans will always be raping nature in one form or another.

A good vegan will have a healthier heart than a meat/dairy eater… but healthier morals? Hardly.

What about the predators that are exterminated to protect livestock – wolves, dingos, coyotes, foxes, badgers?

What about the land cleared to raised animals for food, or to produce food?

Unless the animals raised for food, or to produce food are raised on air, then why does this meat-defender not care about all the land destroyed to grow feed-crops for cattle, sheep, pigs, chickens?

What about the collapse in the eco-system when the top-predators are taken out, because they interfere with livestock?

Does this meat-defender know that it takes 7-times more grain to produce the same amount of meat. (In other words, it takes 7kilos of corn or soy (and it is possibly genetically modified) to produce 1 kilo of meat)…..

So, if all the grain produced in the world went directly to feed people – instead of feeding animals – the world could feed 7 times the amount of people than if they ate a meat-based diet.

The amount of land needed to feed 1 person on a meat-based diet, could feed 20 people on a vegan diet.

And, please, let’s not go anywhere near that old “how many animals are killed in the combine harvesters of grain crops” saying, because, again, unless animals raised for food are living on air, they are also consuming grains.

I say grains – but they are also consuming toxic sludge, sewerage waste, rendered bodies of their diseased companion animals, radioactive waste, manure, plastic pellets, genetically modified corn and soy, antibiotics, growth hormones and garbage.

Eating vegan is a more effective use of land for food production, with much, much less pollution to the air and water, less topsoil loss, and reduced use of fossil fuels.

So, meat-defender, if you really believe that vegans are immoral, amoral, or have sick morals, come over here to my blog and debate me.

and… I’ll win.

*One of the drawbacks of Tumblr is, it is never clear who posted the original, and who is reposting.

10 September, 2011

What people Really want to know about vegans

The following is a look at some of the search terms people have used to find this blog.

i am going to be deleting some so called animal activist, as they do nothing to help me in fight for the rights of animals info.
I’m right there with you.

Rage against the vegans
That might make a great band name.

is it possible to know that you are eating humanely slaughtered meat
Yes, it is possible to know, the answer: IT’S NOT. humanely slaughtered meat is an oxymoron, the taking of a life of a living being is never humane.

alicia silverstone eats cheese
Yep – (and there were many searches for that phrase)
If I was at a party and there was a tray of cheese sitting there and I had had drinks, then I might have a bite Alicia Silverstone.

alicia fake vegan
I’m sure if she ever stopped eating cheese she would be a fabulous vegan, but until then…

can vegans eat cheese once on a while
celebrity vegans can, and continue to be vegan. But for the rest of us commoners, that would make us vegetarian.

elsie shrigley
How many vegans don’t know who Elsie Shrigley was? Elsie Shrigley, along with Donald Watson coined the word VEGAN, and was one of the original founders of the Vegan Society, in the United Kingdom in 1944.

dolores huerta non violent protests
Never heard of Dolores Huerta? Have you ever heard of César Chávez?
Huerta co-founded the National Farm Workers Association along with César Chávez, and in many of the strike actions and non-violent protests, Huerta was side by side with Chávez.

who drink rat milk?
An episode of The Simpsons (Fox), used milking rats as an example of the way the local school was cutting costs, by buying rat milk from the local mobster, Fat Tony.

what are some of the things meat eaters are doing to fight back?
I didn’t know meat eaters were a recognised Oppressed group in todays modern society.

milk is murder go vegan
I’ve heard the saying Meat is murder, Milk is Rape but given what happens to male calves born to dairy cows (they become veal), I would say this is more accurate…. Milk is murder, so please, go vegan.

until every cage is empty. no compromise
Agree. 100%.

mcdonald’s planet destruction
That should be there new slogan, replace Over 1 billion served to planet destruction with every burger sold

morbidly obese vegan
Was someone looking for information about morbidly-obese vegans? I personally don’t know any. I’m sure they are out there.

human de-evolution to junk food
I love this one, I like to think it sums up so much of what is wrong with modern western society. Too much junk food is causing humans to de-evolve. As does this:
evolution of man to obesity

i am proud be a vegan
Yah! Me too!

animal liberation proud to be a vegan
Love it.

jamie oliver made me vegetarian
Then Jamie Oliver has achieved more than some people in this world.

I’ve been told that I can’t call myself because I watched Jamie Oliver, but, to each their own.

genetically modified children
Apparently, that’s Monsanto’s next step in their quest for world domination.

when can you start calling yourself a vegetarian
When you stop eating animal flesh – this does include chicken, bacon and all seafood.

girl power go vegan
This means something to someone, but I like it.

Cover of a comic book created by PETA as part ...

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do you have to be a vegan to work in peta??
NO, but you do have to like killing animals to work for PeTA – they euthanise “unwanted” cats and dogs. If people donated to a no-kill shelter instead of PeTA there would be less animal deaths.

international vegan conspiracy
Yep, right up there with the faked moon landings and Tupac and Biggie working at a 7-11 in New Zealand.

On the other hand, maybe there is an International Vegan Conspiracy, a network of vegans secretly working to overthrow the capitalist Animal Agriculture industry.
…. When I write my vegan manifesto, I might borrow this phrase

howard zinn is more critical of civil disobedience than civil obedience.

civil disobedience. As soon as you say the topic is civil disobedience, you are saying our problem is civil disobedience. That is not our problem…. Our problem is civil obedience. Our problem is the numbers of people all over the world who have obeyed the dictates of the leaders of their government and have gone to war, and millions have been killed because of this obedience.
Howard Zinn: The Problem is Civil Obedience (1970)

we are not nonviolent because we want to save our soul
Is this a statement about the use of Direct Action?

or was someone looking for this:
If you are cut down in a movement that is designed to save the soul of a nation, then no other death could be more redemptive. – Martin Luther King Jr

jimmy cliff the oppressors are keeping me down
Jimmy Cliff, sang in The Harder They Come:
Well, the oppressors are tryin’ to keep me down
Tryin’ to drive me underground

cool animals to have as pets
Not on this blog – try a rock, or a potted plant.

bovine liberation
liberation fish and turtle
I support all liberations – Set the Cows Free! Save the Turtles! Ban the Fishing!

a tear fell down my face right now, literally.
Yep, I’m the same way watching anti-cruetly videos.

baby sheep ugg kill
Yep, that’s about it. Ugg boots kill sheep. Ugg boots are made from the skin of a sheep. And really, how unattractive is wearing dead-sheep on your feet.

palm oil animal death
Again, straight to the point in four little words.
The destruction of forests for palm oil, destroys the habitats of many species, the orangutan, the most famous.

most evil companies mccdonalds
Another four-word search that sums up the issue.

terrorism act against vegans
That would make a change, usually it is the animal rights vegans accused of being Terrorists.

militant vegan slogans
From other searches:

  • go vegan or else
  • animal liberation human liberation
  • those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable JFK
  • i am vegan
  • martin luther king jr one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws
  • animal rights it is time to act
  • animal eaters are killing the earth

and
alien alliance with earth
Yep, when humans find intelligent alien life, they’ll probably fire up the BBQ and eat them.

5 September, 2011

Gypsies, Jews and Palestinians – A Vegan Perspective

*I have used the word Gypsies in the headline, as that is the commonly known term in English, however, for the rest of my post, I will use the word ROMA

@BrokePimpStyles (♛Madame Of Content♛)… 5/09/2011
“It is a rare and revolutionary individual indeed that doesn’t use their own oppression as an excuse to oppress others.”

As a vegan, I am occasionally told by critics, “why don’t you care about people – the hungry, the homeless, refugees, war, famine? the environment?”.

I tell them, as a vegan, I care about all of those things, and being vegan is one way to do something about all the issues.

Being vegan expands my circle of compassion (Dr. Albert Einstein) to include all living beings and the planet that supports life.

animal liberation
=
earth liberation
=
human liberation

Being vegan does not automatically give me a unique point of view on anything, except that I choose to speak out against oppression where I see it.

The causes of one oppression are the same as all oppression, it is the group that we choose to oppress which change.

“Instead of allowing only one type of equality,
place the blame on each other, yeah,
we should be expanding our scope
of understanding and hope
… we only want one thing, and that’s UNITY”
Unity Of Oppression: Consolidated

The same reasoning people use to justify to themselves, sexism, agism, killing others in war, homophobia, classism, ableism, this all comes from the same place as SPECIEISM.

The ability of humans to categories those people / animals over there is our attempt to make Them less than Us, less equal to us, less worthy.

We take away the rights and lives of Others because they are not like Us. We don’t need to treat them with dignity and respect because in our eyes, they are not deserving.

And because they belong to a group that is Less than Us, they bring their Oppression on themselves, otherwise, they would be one of Us.

Don’t agree with that?

Hey, Gay-people – stop complaining about lack of Marriage Equality – if you want to get married, stop being gay and be straight!

See?

So What? What has this got to do with Roma?
In 1942, the German Justice Minister Thierack removed Roma from the jurisdiction of the German courts, and into the hands of Heinrich Himmler ‘I do this because I realize that the courts can only feebly contribute to the extermination of these people.’ *

Yeah, again… so what?

Jewish prisoners of war, those who were forced into slave labour, those who had their possessions and land stolen, those who were experimented on were entitled to compensation after the war. They had been targeted on the basis of their religion.

Roma people of Europe, were also rounded up as early as 1936, had sadistic medical experiments conducted on them, sent to work in slave labour factories, had their lands and possessions stolen, and when they had served their purpose, they were executed.

However the Roma were Not entitled to any compensation, because they were sent to the Concentration Camps for being criminals, not on the basis of their religion or race.

the Gypsy cannot, by reason of his inner and outer makeup (Konstruktion), be a useful member of the human community. – Raul Hilberg, 1941

Roma were exterminated for the CRIME of being Roma.

That’s sad and all, but this is 2011, what does this have to do with Palestine?

Almost 70 years later, and nothing has changed.

The people of Palestine are being targeted for extermination from a country that is determined to steal their land.

Gaza has been turned into an open-air prison (Gerry Adams), an entire people have been made prisoners.

Palestinians have been found guilty for the crime of being Palestinian, and execution soon follows.

Israel has decided to treat the people of Palestine the same way that the Roma were treated by the Nazi’s during World War Two.

NEVER FORGET- they said, about the millions upon millions of people who were slaughtered during World War Two.

But this was not supposed to be so that some could learn the lessons and use them against others, the way they had been used against Jews and Roma (and so many more).

What Israel does to Palestine, on that basis that all Palestinians are terrorists, would be unacceptable if any other country did it to Israel.

A child throws a few rocks at an Israeli tank, and Israel throws a few missiles at homes in Gaza, killing a few people – because they are harbouring terrorists.

Now is this a proportional response to a child throwing rocks at a tank?

And because Gaza is harbouring terrorists, all Gazans are responsible – men, women, old people, children, babies, even the unborn are guilty of habouring terrorists.

The result is Gaza has become the largest prison in the world. Israel gets to decide who goes in, who comes out, who owns what land, who buys what, who sells what, who gets access to medicine, schools, shops, family.

Even though, collective punishment is expressly forbidden by the United Nations

No protected person may be punished for an offence he or she has not personally committed. Collective penalties and likewise all measures of intimidations or of terrorism are prohibited. Pillage is prohibited. Reprisals against protected persons and their property are prohibited.
Article 33 of the 4th Geneva Convention.

However, while Palestine continues to have its quest for Statehood opposed, these are not considered war crimes. They are considered self-defense by the fourth largest military (Israel) in the world. And the people in the occupied territories of Gaza are considered to be part of Israel.

The ICC (International Criminal Court) has NO jurisdiction over alleged / war crimes committed in Gaza. (Will Anyone Be Held Accountable for War Crimes in Gaza?). Palestinians living there have no recourse for justice.

is this a joke? I’m trying to show that crimes against Roma, Jew, anyone on the basis of their race, is f’kd up… And you bring up stereotypes that went out the 1970? (they were out of date stereotypes in the 1790s!)

What? What the hell? Are you serious?

no, really, are you serious?

Criminality is not linked to DNA.

To believe that it was justified to slaughter millions of Roma during the second world war because they are criminals, and deserve, even now, today…. How can anyone justify that belief.

It is not surprising that people in Palestine can be declared terrorists, or supporters of terrorists, and accused of harbouring terrorists, on the evidence of being Palestinian.

Some questions for you Mr MalleyScrub

If a Roma and a non-Roma have a child, is that child only half-criminal?

I mean, I think what I’m asking is – what percentage of non-Roma blood/ DNA is required before a child ceases to be a born criminal 50%? 25%? 12.5%?

Or, is there some other criteria, like skin colour and eye colour, or perhaps religion and nationality, which affects the criminality of the DNA?

Or, what if someone never commits a crime, we know that if they are Roma, they are still natural born thiefs, but does criminality pass onto their children anyway?

And, is it passed down on the mothers side, the fathers side, or both?

Does have a European relative boost the non-criminal DNA, more than say Asian (since Roma originated in India, not Egypt)?

How about, what happens if a Roma family adopt a non-Roma child, do they become tricky thieves by association or is it purely by blood?

Mr Malleyscrub, could you try replacing the word Roma in your tweet, with any other group – African-American, Asian, Aboriginal, Irish, Victorian, Catholic, Muslim, Atheist, Women… do we still believe this?

Oh, and Mr Malleyscrub, opposing racism and discrimination is not cute – it is the right thing to do – but from someone who apparently bases their belief system on the same system they use to breed race horse, I’m not really sure your opinion of me is valid.

Call the police – Is that your final solution on the matter, oops, I mean, final word?

Try this experiment:
When you hear someone make a comment about “all of THOSE PEOPLE do/act/believe/are……” (-those people– being which ever group you think you’re better than)
…. replace Those People with your own group

example:
All working class are lazy
All white people are lazy

All Muslims are terrorists
All white people are terrorists

All public school educated people are stupid
All white people are stupid

All women are gold diggers
All white people are gold diggers

All Roma are thieves
All white people are thieves

No, we don’t believe ALL, every single white person ever born has those characteristics, so why is it acceptable to characterise an entire race of Roma based on stupid stereotypes.

Try this one….
Palestinians don’t deserve to live
White people don’t deserve to live

Is it acceptable now?

Why don’t we care that Palestinians are being slaughtered?

Is it because deep down inside, we see them as being less than human, less worthy, less deserving of rights.

Do we think that perhaps they really are born-terrorists – if our thinking of Roma people has not yet evolved further than the Nazi’s of World War Two, why should we see Palestinians any differently.

Is there some part of us that thinks that Palestinians have brought this on themselves, and hope that when Israel kills them all that we can stop listening to their whining for their own land?

WHY are we silent?

Why is still acceptable to express blatantly, obvious racism against Roma?

Something we would not tolerate against any other group…. except Palestinians.

1 September, 2011

Vegans, Vegetarians and Lacto-Ovo-Meli-Pesco-Pollo-Porcine-Ovis-Bovine-atarians

Labels, we have them thrust upon us, and we do the same to others.

Generally, when someone uses a label, there is a common understanding of that word, example student, doctor, mother, pagan

But sometimes, the labels people use are more about how people wish they were, rather than how they really are.
Taking the words vegan and vegetarian, do these words mean the same for everyone who uses them – either to describe themselves or others, and what happens when they don’t.

Questions that I get asked frequently are variations on, what do people CALL themselves:

– what do you call a vegetarian who eats chicken?
– what do you call a vegetarian who eats cheese?
– what do you call a vegan who eats fish?
– what do you call a vegan who eats cheese and fish?
– what do you call a vegetarian who eats fish but not dairy?

Vegan, vegetarian, freegan, herbivore, locavore, plant-based diet, cheesatarian, cheegan, beegan, part-time vegan, part-time vegetarian, pesco-vegan, lacto-ovo vegan, flexitarian, strict vegetarian, Lebanese vegetarian, or the monstrously pretentious “plant-strong” (Esselstyn).

Argh!! make it stop…..  so many labels, so little time to read the dictionary

is a lacto-ovo-pesco-pollo-bovine-porcine vegetarian one who eats eggs and dairy, and occasionally fish, sometimes chicken, sometimes beef, and sometimes pork? The word loses all meaning when accompanied by so many qualifications.
– Dan Balogh: Hitler: Goose Stepper and Goose Eater

In some cases the use of labels for Vegan and Vegetarian can be problematic, especially when used strangely out of correct context:

  • My partner was introduced to a new work colleague as being the vegan of the office, you know, that’s a type of vegetarian.His response yes, much in the same way a Jewish person is a type of Buddhist, in that they both, you know, believe in Stuff
  • Or, the Facebook vegan warrior who tried to tell me I wasn’t entitled to call myself Vegan because I watched Jamie Oliver. And then proceeded to tell me about his diet, including a morning protein drink made with whey… (ah, sweetie, whey is actually a dairy product).
  • Or, a friend who tried to tell me that there are two types of vegetarians: those who eat meat and those who don’t
    and no matter how hard I tried, I could not convince her that No type of vegetarian eats meat, unless it is the pseudo-vegetarian
  • Or, the restaurant near me that lists prawn cutlets on their vegetarian menu, and they don’t mean faux prawns either
  • Or, a vegetarian couple I know, one eats bacon and the other chicken wings,
    (were they at least from a vegetarian chicken? I asked, to much scorn)

Every time a person calls themselves a vegetarian but continues to eat animals, the result is, it just makes life more complicated for the real vegetarians.

Same with vegan, when someone eats dairy, or wears leather, eats sealife, but says, they are vegan, it just makes life much more difficult for the real vegans who try to convince others that – No, vegans don’t, in fact, eat fish, wear leather, drink milk, buy Cover Girl cosmetics.

Without discounting the possible good a mostly-vegetarian-but-not-quite could do….   If they eat meat they are not vegetarian.

So, perhaps, we need a new word for people who try hard – perhaps something like: potential-vegetarian, mostly-vegetarian, transitioning-vegetarian.

The same goes for people who claim the badge of VEGAN, yet deliberately consume animal products or wear animal products. (I do not count people who have their food spiked in this category, some chefs still think that is funny, what matters is intent).

Do people who call themselves VEGAN while wearing leather, or eating animal products, not know that what they are doing is Not vegan, or do they hope no one will notice, or do they just not care?

How about the vegetarian who consumes sea-animals, bacon, chicken – what does vegetarian actually mean to them? They don’t eat beef?

This is an example of label creep where the meaning of vegan degrades to mean vegetarian, and vegetarian degrades to mean someone who eats vegetables occasionally.

Like the social smoker, who never smokes during the week, but does a packet on the weekend, then tries to claim the label of non-smoker….

Or, the factory-owner who claims be a humanitarian, while paying slave-wages to children locked in factories for 16-hours a day, but for the other eight hours, they’re a true champion of human rights.

Perhaps they want to be vegan, but are unable to – however, if desire alone could make someone something they are not, like a Vegan of a person regardless of what they eat, wear, buy…. then I could call myself a world famous celebrity, but that wouldn’t make it true either.

But, if the desire is there to be a vegan or a vegetarian, then… good on them.

That is a lot more than most people. And perhaps with a little encouragement and a lot of support, these part-time vegetarians could go all the way.

What is a part-time vegan?

https://twitter.com/BLISSRAE/status/103405582408613888

really my dear, as much as 90%!!

How is this even possible for a fish / sea-life eater to claim to be in anyway a vegan?
There is no part-time vegans, it just cannot be.

If Part time vegan refers to their diet only, then, in this case the label should be strict vegetarian, which means a vegan diet but non vegan lifestyle.

90% is good, rather, it is a good START, but the important thing is – what about the other 10%, I am not sure those fish and other sea-creatures would take much comfort as they are being shoveled down the throat of a pesco-vegan that for 90% of the time, other animals didn’t have to die.

Would we accept 90% for cases of wrongly executed death-row prisoners?

Well now, we got a strike rate of 90% guilty, and only 10% innocent people mistakenly executed, that’s a win-win situation.

Not likely.

People who eat cheese are not vegan, no matter how famous they are

People who eat cheese and eggs are not vegan, no matter how famous they are or how much more they do for animals than me. Fine, they’re bloody heroes, give them a medal, put them on a stamp, build a statue of them, name a bridge or a street after them – but if they eat cheese, they are not vegan.

Once we start making exception based on the career of people, where does it stop?

Or, are only commoners supposed to be actual-vegans, while celebrities can be almost-vegans?

And, for some reason, there are many vegans get personally offended when you say that eating cheese deliberately is not vegan.

And, almost as outraged when you say that wearing leather is not vegan. Some vegans get all uppity: But, but, but, but Anne Hathaway ate a vegan dessert once, shes one of us, where as you Redglitter are just some militant vegan, giving us a bad name.

The response is like: How dare you attack Alicia! She is our Goddess. You are a Nothing, hear me, You are less than Nothing Redglitter!

Fine, I’ll take that, Militant and Less Than Nothing, perhaps…. but I AM definitely vegan.

It seems, though, that what this defenders of cheese-eating vegans, and leather-wearing vegans, miss…. I’m not attacking an egg-and-dairy-eating, leather wearing, vegan, I am trying to defend the concept of vegan, before it becomes meaningless, before it dilutes into vegetarian, and vegetarian dilutes into ‘eats a vegetable occasionally’

So, to answer the questions that I set asked at the top of this post

– What do you call a vegetarian who eats chicken? Pseudo-vegetarian or Omnivore

– What do you call a vegetarian who eats cheese? A vegetarian

– What do you call a vegan who eats fish? A omnivore

– what do you call a vegan who eats cheese and fish? An omnivore

– what do you call a vegetarian who eats fish but not dairy? A dairy-free omnivore.

*Lebanese vegetarian – I’ve been called that when I try to explain what vegan is, I didn’t realise things were different in Lebanon

*Lacto-Ovo-Meli-Pesco-Pollo-Porcine-Ovis-Bovine-atarians  =  dairy, eggs, honey, fish, chicken, pork, sheep and beef – atarian