Vegans put up with some illogical comments and questions from people who try to justify their meat-dairy-eggs-honey centred diets.
If the poster of this comment thinks vegans cause famine, then perhaps thinking is not their strong point.
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Veganism is cool and very healthy when approached properly, but this kind of anti-meat nonsense gets annoying. If you wanna talk ethics of killing animals to eat them, let’s talk about the ethics of destroying animal habitats to produce fruits and veg at a level that is unnatural and damaging to the environment on many many levels.
As long as we’re producing enough to feed 7 billion people (not even that many, when you consider famines all over the world), humans will always be raping nature in one form or another.
A good vegan will have a healthier heart than a meat/dairy eater… but healthier morals? Hardly.
What about the predators that are exterminated to protect livestock – wolves, dingos, coyotes, foxes, badgers?
What about the land cleared to raised animals for food, or to produce food?
Unless the animals raised for food, or to produce food are raised on air, then why does this meat-defender not care about all the land destroyed to grow feed-crops for cattle, sheep, pigs, chickens?
What about the collapse in the eco-system when the top-predators are taken out, because they interfere with livestock?
Does this meat-defender know that it takes 7-times more grain to produce the same amount of meat. (In other words, it takes 7kilos of corn or soy (and it is possibly genetically modified) to produce 1 kilo of meat)…..
So, if all the grain produced in the world went directly to feed people – instead of feeding animals – the world could feed 7 times the amount of people than if they ate a meat-based diet.
The amount of land needed to feed 1 person on a meat-based diet, could feed 20 people on a vegan diet.
And, please, let’s not go anywhere near that old “how many animals are killed in the combine harvesters of grain crops” saying, because, again, unless animals raised for food are living on air, they are also consuming grains.
I say grains – but they are also consuming toxic sludge, sewerage waste, rendered bodies of their diseased companion animals, radioactive waste, manure, plastic pellets, genetically modified corn and soy, antibiotics, growth hormones and garbage.
Eating vegan is a more effective use of land for food production, with much, much less pollution to the air and water, less topsoil loss, and reduced use of fossil fuels.
So, meat-defender, if you really believe that vegans are immoral, amoral, or have sick morals, come over here to my blog and debate me.
and… I’ll win.
*One of the drawbacks of Tumblr is, it is never clear who posted the original, and who is reposting.
When vegans talk about Not Exploiting Animals! the necrovores (“death eaters”) of the world start screaming PETA PROPAGANDA! Vegan Propaganda! TOFU propaganda! Communist Propaganda!
But what happens when schools start telling people “drink milk as often as you can”? And that message is brought directly to the students via a Dairy Lobby Group and a Government Department.
How can this be anything but propaganda for AA (Animal Agriculture)?
And if anyone still has doubts about the evilness of Dairy – a Land O Lakes subsidiary has poured millions of dollars into Monsanto, “that shady agro-giant, that food-world Voldemort” (Elizabeth Farrelly), owning the world – one gene at a time.
But all milk comes from breasts – cow breasts, sheep breasts, goat breasts, yak breasts. Urgh!
Milk from some animals is more acceptable than milk from others.
Video of the week
Ask Your Doctor About Meat™
A brilliant, humorous look at propaganda of meat eating coming from “experts” who know nothing about nutrition (doctors receive very little training in nutrition).
“Meat… It’s dead and it’s made from animals”
Vegany Sweet Goodness
This recipe for Vegan chocolate bars inspired by Mars® Bars
because – not only are Mars® Bars filled with cruelty ingredients, but Mars tests on animals .
A Mars France spokesperson has “admitted that the business division Symbioscience does test on animals while developing “pharmaceutical and therapeutic food ingredients”, including flavanols.”
Image via Wikipedia
Vegan Mars Bars from Veganarchy Foods
*nuttelex in the recipe is vegan margarine
Be kind to cows… and be kind to your body. Vegan junk food!
The Vegan Swagg blog is up and running: First post: “An Open Letter from a Militant Vegan” a look at animal rights / veganism and social networking.
What I do love about this, it completely tears down the false “I’m one of you” vegan platitudes of a pseudo vegan and …
the best part is I don’t have to deal with the negative feedback from the trolls who seem to think militant vegans are the enemy (yes ALF, I’m looking at you).
@VeganMudblood: Sexism, transphobia, homophobia, racism, classism, sizeism, ageism, etc., have NO place in the #animalrights movement. #vegan
… all I can add to that is, cruelty, torture, exploitation, abuse, slavery and murder have no place in animal rights either.
TROLL of the week
@sarrabee
For sickening, disgusting, hate speech against women and transgender people.
This is a person who rants at, trolls and spams other users, especially those who she/he does not follow – is all about arguing and not about social networking.
He/She is a person who seems to think feminism is all about hating on women, progressives, vegans, non whites, and transgender.
And to me, that is NOT feminism.
For example – @sarrabee
“I’m not actually responding to that person at all. I’m simply reposting his/her tweets. It’s important.” Thursday, 24 February 2011 12:53:23 PM
which was either aimed at me, or a woman called Cindy.
Why the faux gender unknown act?
Which may not seem like anything until followers realise, (and this is what I find amusingly ironic) this same person, he/she was calling out progressives for labeling Ann Coulter a “he/she”. And this @sarrabee person thought that was transphobic. And yet, turns around and uses transphobic terms as an insult against others.
If you don’t know someone’s gender, and it is important to you, as it seems to be for this @sarrabee transgender hater person, then use someone’s name. Or, gender neutral “them”, “their”, “they”, which is becoming increasingly acceptable to use for singular other.
Although, I’m not sure why someone’s gender should be important to anyone other than that persons loved ones and doctor.
In the above tweet, she/he could have said “I’m reposting THEIR tweets” – but his/her insistence on use a gender descriptor for the person he/she was reposting, seems to me that she/he (@sarrabee) cares a lot about gender and calling out progressives and doesn’t really care about transgender people at all.
This person comes across as a twitter troll – follow at your own risk.
from the Feeding Trolls archives
completely selfish fkn moron of the week
from the Im a selfish, self centre, heartless loser files
This comment (You can be both an animal rights activist and an omnivore. Some people don’t have the need to eat meat but some do.) was found at the Facebook group Fight For Animal Rights.
Let’s go over this one more time for the braindead idiots – one of the most basic rights any living thing has, is LIFE. When you eat meat, or consume any animal product, you are depriving that being of LIFE.
Eating animals is not ANIMAL RIGHTS.
You absolutely CANNOT be an animal rights activist who consumes the corpses of animals.
